Matthew Scullion is not your typical CEO.

He’s the co-founder of Manchester-based Matillion, which joined the ranks of UK unicorns in 2021 when a Series E fundraise took its valuation to $1.5bn.

He tells The Dealmaker UNCUT podcast how he doesn’t obsess about being a unicorn and says companies should stop blaming investors if they can’t raise funds.

Scullion also talks about:

• The game-changing pivot to making their own software
• The rise and rise of artificial intelligence
• Why US founders don’t talk about exit – unlike their UK counterparts
• His fear about leaving anything on the table

After the break, Jonathan answers listener questions.